Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with ex-high priestess of the Church of Satan and daughter of Anton LaVey, Zeena Schreck. They discuss her upbringing in the church, the pathology of her mother and father, how and why she severed ties, and the spirituality she has come to know today.
Zeena Schreck is a Berlin-based interdisciplinary artist, musician, and writer. Prior to her solo music career, she was musical co-director and graphic art designer for the experimental musical project Radio Werewolf during its most prolific European phase. She is also an ordained Tibetan Buddhist yogini and leading Western teacher of Buddhist meditation, spiritual awakening, and the nature of mind. She brings to her creative work a lifetime’s experience and expertise in both ancient magical traditions as well as still-living, unbroken Tibetan Buddhist traditions. She expatriated from the U.S. in 1990, living first in Vienna, Austria, and since 1999 in Berlin, Germany.
This episode was recorded on July 15th, 2024
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:32) intro
(3:35) Breaking through trauma conditioning
(7:45) Anton LaVey: founder of the Church of Satan
(16:00) Raised to believe LaVey’s Satanism was a genuine religion
(20:56) The Machiavellian tendency, Cain and Abel
(24:28) The dutiful daughter and rebellion
(28:35) Severing ties, gradual until the tipping point
(37:21) Richard Ramirez, breaking the illusion
(41:38) Pinocchio, the dark magic of the carnival
(45:16) LaVey’s views of normal society, enablement and taking revenge
(47:34) Zeena’s mother, raised in the church
(53:26) Adam and Eve: the Abrahamic masculine and feminine
(59:31) Zeena’s mother and martyrdom to the cause
(1:11:20) Five years in the role of high priestess
(1:17:47) Trying to break away, living as an “untouchable”
(1:21:47) Membership surged with Zeena involved, how her father manipulated the inner circle
(1:25:13) To recognize your ability to cause harm and refrain
(1:27:26) Purposeful misrepresentation by the press
(1:32:56) Tony Valdez, aiming higher
(1:34:35) Why Zeena made an exception to be interviewed by Dr. Peterson
(1:35:59) The development of broader compassion, the severing ceremony
(1:45:13) Reconciliation and finding Buddhism, the blessing of being lost
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