Butch Engle & The Styx No Matter What You Say us 1966 67, flower psychedelia
Butch Engle & The Styx - No Matter What You Say (us 1966-67, flower psychedelia)
Biography:
Butch Engle & the Styx were a very minor mid-’60s San Francisco Bay Area band that issued just
three singles (the first, in 1964, under the name the Showmen). They played moody garage-folk-
rock with a similarity to the Beau Brummels that was not coincidence: all of their material,
except for the Showmen single, was written or co-written by Ron Elliott of the Beau Brummels.
The Beau Brummels were a fine group, and Elliott was an excellent songwriter.
But the compositions Butch Engle & the Styx were granted access to were weak by Elliott’s own
high standards and in fact were basically leftovers that were not deemed strong enough for the
Beau Brummels to record. As Engle himself recalled in the liner notes to The Best of Butch Engle
& the Styx: No Matter What You Say, “Ron, Sly Stewart, [and Autumn record executives] Tom Donahue
and Bobby Mitchell would choose which songs would go on [a Beau Brummels] album, and then we
could take what we wanted from whatever was left.“
Butch Engle & the Styx released just two singles under that name and broke up in 1968. Both
sides of those two singles, along with both sides of the Showmen single and almost a dozen
previously unissued cuts, were issued by Sundazed on The Best of Butch Engle & the Styx: No
Matter What You Say in 2000.
~ by Richie Unterberger ().
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Reviews:
This has a pretty funny title, considering that the group only put out three singles (one of
them under a different name) and never had anything close to a hit. A better title might have
been “The Entirety of Butch Engle & the Styx,“ since it’s difficult to imagine that any more
material could have been retrieved than appears on this CD. In addition to both sides of the
three singles (the first done in 1964 when they were still called the Showmen), this also
includes 11 previously unreleased tracks, including some alternatives and multiples. The unwary
might initially dismiss this as a subpar, more garagey Beau Brummels, a comparison that becomes
even more valid upon the discovery that Beau Brummels songwriter Ron Elliott wrote or co-wrote
everything except the Showmen single. To be brutal, Elliott was wise to cast off most of these
instead of recording them with the Beau Brummels. The songs just aren’t nearly on the level of
his usually excellent efforts for his own band, although they have some similar trademarks
(particularly the minor-based melodies and moodiness). Butch Engle & the Styx were lesser
musicians and singers than the Beau Brummels, too, although they were OK, adding some cheesy
garage organ that you’d never find on Beau Brummels sessions. “Hey, I’m Lost,“ which was one of
the singles (and appears along with two alternate versions of the same tune), was just about
their best moment: a charging, slightly ominous and doubtful number with good vocal harmonies.
This is certainly worth getting for major fans of the Beau Brummels, as none of these songs were
actually recorded by that group. As a ’60s garage record, though, No Matter What You Say is
average, even unremarkable.
~ by Richie Unterberger ().
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Garage rock and some nice flower psychedelia (with the usual ingredients of farfisa organ and
loads of fuzz guitar) from the very early hippiedays by this widely unknown Californian band.
Most of the songs were written by Ron Elliott of the BEAU BRUMMELS, but the band doesn/t sound
“folky“.
~ by freaky_lady.
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Featuring the angst-ridden vocals of Butch Engle and scintillating original material from the
pen of the Beau Brummels’ Ron Elliott, Butch Engle & the Styx knocked ’em dead wherever they
played on the SF Bay Area teen music circuit. Butch Engle & the Styx possessed the perfect sound
for 1966-’67. “No Matter What You Say “ rounds up all three singles and a garage-load of
unreleased material from Golden State Recorders.
~ by dj fanis.
Tracklist:
1.
Hey, I’m Lost (Golden State Rec. Version - Originally Unissued) 0:00
2.
Left Hand Girl (Originally Unissued) 02:32
3.
No Matter What You Say (Originally Unissued) 05:00
4.
Smile, Smile, Smile (First Version - Previously Unissued) 07:46
5.
I’m A Fool (Previously Unissued) 09:38
6.
I Call Her Name (Originally Unissued) 12:14
7.
She Is Love (Originally Unissued) 15:00
8.
Butch Engle & The Styx - Going Home 17:15
9.
I Like Her 19:22
10.
Hey I’m Lost 21:19
11.
Puppetmaster 23:51
12.
If You Believe 27:39
13.
Tell Me Please 30:07
14.
You Know All I Want 32:15
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