Todd V Programs LIVE CLASS - The Attraction Secret - How to Get and Pass Shit Tests — 02/26/22 Пикап тодд mentoring program
Date: 02/26/22
(0:06) Shit test Discussion
(7:50) So we shouldn’t build too much value too fast for this to not happen?
(8:25) The horizontal axis is not time.
(8:48) If a girl is being polite then it’s more necessary to provoke shit tests to ignite the set?
(9:45) How do you know where you stand on the chart?
(10:36) Why is she scared?
(11:25) Can you come off too arrogant this way? Especially if you keep building too much value.
(12:50) So do we get shit tests because she is wanting to know we’re a good option / congruent?
(15:10) So when you pass shit tests, she becomes less scared?
(16:53) How do know whether the girl has a steep curve or flat curve (on the graph)?
(19:15) Russian girls are the hardest for me, they politely reject you.
(20:00) Oh, the difference between men and women. I’ve never in my life felt scared to sleep with a girl.
(22:34) A specific example, is this a shit test? I walked up to a group and mentioned that her dog looked like a Persian rug. Does she look at her friend who says do we know you?
(25:03) Girls have different curves for sure.
(26:23) The recent shit test I got: “Well, I don’t usually date guys over 30.“
(26:29) How fast can you start getting shit tests?
(27:33) Asian girls give fewer shit tests in my experience. Are they just culturally more lovely/subtle?
(28:30) The Russian girl I went on date with recently doesn’t understand it when I disqualify myself. Prolly a language thing.
(29:05) About being scared, you once said that a girl will sleep with you if you’re a win for her or a non-loss, how does that relate to the graph?
(30:05) So technically, a shit test is a verbal objection to progressing the relationship? But one that she’s somewhat open to you passing?
(30:45) Do shit tests apply to social circle games?
(32:55) Are girls likely to shit test me when her frame is challenged?
(33:40) Todd what did you mean in one of your shit tests videos when you said that you have can get a shit test by being an authority in her world. Are there any examples of that?
(34:52) Does introducing a man to a woman premise, what makes her scared and triggers shit tests most of the time?
(36:56) Disqualify me as in we can be friends, but no more. We would never work. She responded a minute ago you tried to kiss me. What changed? What do you mean?
(37:39) Can you say more about value vs. comfort shit tests? Few examples.
(37:56) Recognizing that the evolutionary biology foundations for shit tests (child/tribe etc) are actually not logical / reality (birth control/subtlety/lack of life or death/companionship consequences in the modern-day / plenty of women ok with one night stands), seems a lot of female psychology falls into this illogical place. Are we speaking to / gaming centuries of evolutionary psychology rather than the girl herself? Feel like the more I learn about women the more I am pulling my hair out.
(41:32) I remember one infield in Todd’s university program the girl gave Todd a comfort shit test, don’t be rude as they walked out of Bungalow. Todd responded with, never.
(41:43) So when she doesn’t know where you stand in terms of value, and you introduce a man to a woman, does she assume you’re low value by default?
(43:10) Shit tests are good, so how can we provoke them best?
(45:05) \Still unclear about the relationship between value, attraction, and shit tests. Does attraction help you plow through tests? How are value and attraction related?
(46:58) Tomer - not what I heard, shit-tests are better than flat-out rejection. But better to transcend the need for shit-test by conveying enough value (without being too try-hard).
(47:12) Does “I have a boyfriend“ count as a shit test?
(48:30) You can respond with, tell him I am gay, it’s ok. When you get the boyfriend shit test.
(49:39) Even though getting shit tests is not optimal, what mindset/thought process should you have to pass them?
(50:20) So when you provoke a shit test, you’re moving toward the middle of the graph. This can be good or bad, depending on where in the graph you started?
(52:03) I’m still confused about what exactly “triggers“ value in a woman. I know we talked about NLP, Means, and Exact Value. But my question is would the “Means“ Value she wants to be the 4 value categories in VMC (Aesthetics, Competency, Social Feedback, Preselection)?
(54:03) How to pass a Shit Test discussion.
(1:04:00) First Exercise (Shit Test)
(1:19:15) What is the answer, Todd? What are the frame and the answer you would give?
(1:21:03) Second Exercise (Shit Test)
(1:38:47) Value vs Comfort Shit Test Discussion
(1:46:10) It’s tricky because she might be looking for comfort but also seeing if you’ll supplicate for her.
(1:48:07) If the girl goes from mild shit tests to something bordering an insult if all else is going well, could it be a sign she’s falling into the
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