Artist Emma McNally in conversation with Ralph Rugoff, Director of Hayward Gallery

Through examining Emma McNally’s work, Ralph and Emma will consider the relation of drawing and thinking, exploring the different kinds of ‘thinking’ that drawing makes possible and how it can trigger alternate modes of thought in viewers. Emma McNally has lived and worked for many years by the River Thames, London - currently in her studio at Woolwich Dockyard just beyond the Thames barrier. Her relationship with the river is central to her work. McNally studied Philosophy and Literature before continuing her thinking visually through drawing. Her practice is an ongoing exploration of complexity and entanglement across scales, spaces, times. Her drawings have been utilised across categories where new modes of thinking are evolving (including ecology, physics, philosophy, music, politics, urbanism, mathematics, cartography, networks and complexity.) She has shown internationally, including the Hayward and Drawing Room in London, Museum of Fine Art Houston, Biennale of Sydney, MON